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    Next Time Somebody Tells You Welfare Is Bad For The Economy...

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    A couple of years ago, a Republican committee staff director told me candidly (and proudly) what the method was to all this obstruction and disruption. Should Republicans succeed in obstructing the Senate from doing its job, it would further lower Congressís generic favorability rating among the American people. By sabotaging the reputation of an institution of government, the party that is programmatically against government would come out the relative winner.
    -Mike Lofgren, 28 years as a staffer on the Republican House and Senate budget and other committees, often dealing with national security and defense issues

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    Are these two items even related? Commonality =/= Causality
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    It's a good point.
    I guess it's important to note that "welfare" doesn't necessarily doom capitalist based economies as some would want us to believe.
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    A couple of years ago, a Republican committee staff director told me candidly (and proudly) what the method was to all this obstruction and disruption. Should Republicans succeed in obstructing the Senate from doing its job, it would further lower Congressís generic favorability rating among the American people. By sabotaging the reputation of an institution of government, the party that is programmatically against government would come out the relative winner.
    -Mike Lofgren, 28 years as a staffer on the Republican House and Senate budget and other committees, often dealing with national security and defense issues

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    Agree 100%. If anything, it does assist the economy.
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    And another thing: These five countries do not have large military expenditures. They can afford to spend money for the welfare of the people.

    U.S defense spending is obscene.
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    Does that include corporate welfare? Military spending is one thing, but isn't corporate welfare spending far higher than social welfare spending? Especially if jobs vanish and retraining costs continue to be all but affordable, this country needs solutions and a start somewhere and fast. And how will people respond? Will they want to help and contribute to society (a real one, not our vulture capitalist state that preys off of people with exorbitant costs as applicable)? Who compromises and how much or to what degree? Everything is such an atrocious mess... Click here to enlarge


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    Click here to enlarge Originally Posted by Tadpole of HypnoToad Click here to enlarge
    Does that include corporate welfare? Military spending is one thing, but isn't corporate welfare spending far higher than social welfare spending? Especially if jobs vanish and retraining costs continue to be all but affordable, this country needs solutions and a start somewhere and fast. And how will people respond? Will they want to help and contribute to society (a real one, not our vulture capitalist state that preys off of people with exorbitant costs as applicable)? Who compromises and how much or to what degree? Everything is such an atrocious mess... Click here to enlarge
    I would say no. People are consumers at a greater scale than corporations. Those people on welfare spend everything thay get. Corporations take their welfare and likely spend most of it on upper management salary and benefits. Then the rich executives likely send his or her money to offshore tax shelters.
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