As Whip could Murtha have prevented this break away?

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A group of forty-four "fiscally conservative" Democrats will not call for an end to America's military involvement in Iraq, RAW STORY ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) has learned. Instead, the Blue Dog Coalition of House Democrats will introduce legislation this week focusing on accountability for money the White House wants to spend on the nearly four year long Iraq War.

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If Murtha had been made Whip instead of Steny Hoyer could he have kept these 44 in line?

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"Keep them in line," huh....

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Follow the money.

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If Murtha had been made Whip instead of Steny Hoyer could he have kept these 44 in line?
No.

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The Blue Dog Coalition's 12-Point Plan for Budget Reform

1. Require a balanced budget.
2. Don’t let Congress buy on credit.
3. Put a lid on spending.
4. Require agencies to put their fiscal houses in order.
5. Make Congress tell taxpayers how much they’re spending.
6. Set aside a rainy-day fund.
7. Don’t hide votes to raise the debt limit.
8. Justify spending for pet projects.
9. Ensure that Congress reads the bills it’s voting on.
10. Require honest cost estimates for every bill that Congress votes on.
11. Make sure new bills fit the budget.
12. Make Congress do a better job of keeping tabs on government programs.



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Rep. Mike Arcuri (NY-24) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

Rep. Joe Baca (CA-43) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. John Barrow (GA-12) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Melissa Bean (IL-08) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Marion Berry (AR-01) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Sanford Bishop (GA-02) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Dan Boren (OK-02) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Leonard Boswell (IA-03) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Allen Boyd (FL-02) ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Administration
Rep. Dennis Cardoza (CA-18) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Ben Chandler (KY-06)
([Only registered and activated users can see links])Rep. Jim Cooper (TN-05) ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Jim Costa (CA-20) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Robert E. "Bud" Cramer (AL-05) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Lincoln Davis (TN-04) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

Rep. Joe Donnelly (IN-02) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

Rep. Brad Ellsworth (IN-08) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand (NY-20) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Jane Harman (CA-36) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Stephanie Herseth (SD) ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), Blue Dog Whip

Rep. Baron Hill (IN-09) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Tim Holden (PA-17) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Steve Israel (NY-02) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Mike McIntyre (NC-07) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

Rep. Tim Mahoney (FL-16) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Jim Marshall (GA-03) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Jim Matheson (UT-02) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Charlie Melancon (LA-03) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Mike Michaud (ME-02) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Dennis Moore (KS-03) ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Policy

Rep. Patrick Murphy (PA-08) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Collin Peterson (MN-07) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Earl Pomeroy (ND) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Mike Ross (AR-04) ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Communications
Rep. John Salazar (C0-03) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Loretta Sanchez (CA-47) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Adam Schiff (CA-29) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. David Scott (GA-13) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

Rep. Heath Shuler (NC-11) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. John Tanner (TN-08) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Ellen Tauscher (CA-10) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Gene Taylor (MS-04) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Mike Thompson (CA-01) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

Rep. Charlie Wilson (OH-06) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

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No.

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The Blue Dog Coalition's 12-Point Plan for Budget Reform

1. Require a balanced budget.
2. Don’t let Congress buy on credit.
3. Put a lid on spending.
4. Require agencies to put their fiscal houses in order.
5. Make Congress tell taxpayers how much they’re spending.
6. Set aside a rainy-day fund.
7. Don’t hide votes to raise the debt limit.
8. Justify spending for pet projects.
9. Ensure that Congress reads the bills it’s voting on.
10. Require honest cost estimates for every bill that Congress votes on.
11. Make sure new bills fit the budget.
12. Make Congress do a better job of keeping tabs on government programs.




MEMBERS
Blue Dogs' Bios





Rep. Mike Arcuri (NY-24) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])



Rep. Joe Baca (CA-43) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

Rep. John Barrow (GA-12) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Melissa Bean (IL-08) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Marion Berry (AR-01) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Sanford Bishop (GA-02) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Dan Boren (OK-02) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Leonard Boswell (IA-03) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Allen Boyd (FL-02) ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Administration
Rep. Dennis Cardoza (CA-18) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Ben Chandler (KY-06) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
([Only registered and activated users can see links])Rep. Jim Cooper (TN-05) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Jim Costa (CA-20) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Robert E. "Bud" Cramer (AL-05) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Lincoln Davis (TN-04) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])


Rep. Joe Donnelly (IN-02) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])



Rep. Brad Ellsworth (IN-08) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])



Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand (NY-20) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

Rep. Jane Harman (CA-36) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Stephanie Herseth (SD) ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), Blue Dog Whip


Rep. Baron Hill (IN-09) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

Rep. Tim Holden (PA-17) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Steve Israel (NY-02) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Mike McIntyre (NC-07) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])


Rep. Tim Mahoney (FL-16) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

Rep. Jim Marshall (GA-03) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Jim Matheson (UT-02) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Charlie Melancon (LA-03) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Mike Michaud (ME-02) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Dennis Moore (KS-03) ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Policy


Rep. Patrick Murphy (PA-08) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

Rep. Collin Peterson (MN-07) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Earl Pomeroy (ND) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Mike Ross (AR-04) ([Only registered and activated users can see links]), Blue Dog Co-Chair for Communications
Rep. John Salazar (C0-03) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Loretta Sanchez (CA-47) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Adam Schiff (CA-29) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. David Scott (GA-13) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])


Rep. Heath Shuler (NC-11) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])

Rep. John Tanner (TN-08) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Ellen Tauscher (CA-10) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Gene Taylor (MS-04) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])
Rep. Mike Thompson (CA-01) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])


Rep. Charlie Wilson (OH-06) ([Only registered and activated users can see links])





I mean in terms of Iraq.

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I mean in terms of Iraq.
Yes, I know. I think Blue Dogs primarily are interested in government spending.

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Yes, I know. I think Blue Dogs primarily are interested in government spending.

To the exclusion of other things?