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4§©®
01-18-2007, 02:25 AM
my definition of a stat arrest: arresting someone for spiting gum
on a sidewalk. drinking soda on a train. car window tints. etc...

see you get bs arrests like that cause in a city like nyc. cops earn their
check on overtime. the mayor controls bullshit arrests (stat arrests) by
way of the monthly overtime cap. plus by confining the bullshit to poor
neighborhoods. add *accommodating judges & you complete the trinity.

*judges willing to rubberstamp anything no matter how eyerolling the bs arrest.

the bronx has such judges. recently the nyt reported nypd arrests are
up by 20% ... here's how: the average bronx daily arrest was like 500.
its now 1,000 bronx arrests a day. nyt doesnt tell you that story.

why the spike in arrests? the mayor took the overtime cap off. for a cop
all residents in poor neighborhoods just became walking dollar bills. bronx
has a lot of poor neighborhoods. arrests in the bronx double overnight.

why just poor neighborhoods cant cops make bs arrests anywhere? no.
i live in a neighborhood where half the bullshit i do can get me arrested
daily. drinking in front of the bar tinted car windows. but since i do not
live in a poor hood, cops cant cash me in. those are the rules.

cops dont control the game, the mayor does. at least in my city.

keep a cop hungry and tell him go hunt the poor to eat. thats what
he will do. is it the cop's fault? no. so he sits in his squad car in the
poor bronx just waiting to even see a jay walker, overtime arrest.

while a cop is off the street booking a jay walker. what do
you think the rapist does? waits till the cop gets back????

stat arrests dont make a city safer. fyi when bloomberg was running on
his stat record of "low crime" to get re-elected. the city hospitals were
reporting that medical treatment for assaults victims was up. stat book
tells the fake story. the hospital book tells the real story.

now that arrested jay walker, who's he? usually a poor working stiff.

why? cause the real criminals avoid cops. one friend joked with me one
time that its always the gangsta with the glock who pays his train fare.
why? the last thing stick-up kids want is to attract avoidable attention.

what happens to a blue collar working stiff who finds himself cuffed &
jailed for the next 40 or more hours waiting for an arraignment judge?

well he prays his job is still there. he prays his boss understands how
much bullshit the arrest was. thing is, many small businesses need to
have insurance they have to pay. their insurance goes up for having
employees with any arrest record. so what do you think happens....

if he's lucky he keeps his job. employer takes the insurance bite. but if he
wants to move on to a bigger paying job. he's stuck with an arrest record
for the rest of his days. which makes him hard to hire.

stat arrests tend to have that kinda negative impact on employment. it
decreases legal employment in poor neighborhoods, and increases illegal
employment (drug dealing/prostitution/theft.)

USA#1
01-24-2007, 11:16 AM
That's pretty screwed up tying arrests to OT.

You got a link?

Kbob
02-17-2007, 09:30 AM
That's pretty screwed up tying arrests to OT.

You got a link?
A link would be appreciated.

My first thought on this thread was that the neighborhoods he noted were not only "poor" but - like the Bronx - heavily populated by Blacks and Hispanics. Racial profiling is the norm in these parts of the city regardless of what the Bloomberg admin. wants to admit.

Recently, it was revealed that the NYC "Stop and Search" program, meant to curb the possession of illegal handguns, has more than QUINTUPLED in the last few years.


The number of stops has skyrocketed in the last four years. In 2002, 97,296 people were stopped compared to 508,540 in 2006.[Only registered and activated users can see links]

From what I've read, I can't tell if this program is taking place more in the Bronx or Queens than anywhere else... but it sure as Hell isn't taking place on Wall Street or Midtown Manhattan.

4§©®
02-19-2007, 09:40 AM
fyi kbob, the irish in nyc are getting rounded up too.
you just wont see it reported on ny1 any time soon.

mayor bloomberg likes deporting irish back to north
ireland. so nyc irish neighborhoods (they still exist)
get swept for bad papers (visa violations.)

dont get the feeling that o im not latino or black so
it wont happen to me. if you live in a neighborhood
the mayor ok's the nypd to make o.t. on, you're it.

4§©®
02-22-2007, 06:22 AM
mayor bloomberg`s office called bronx court after
the nypd arrested 700 bronx residents in one day.

thing is you dont get that high a number without
arresting lots of taxpayers, good working people.

so not surprised that the mayor's office finally calls. but
its ironic. since it was their taking off the cap that lead
to this. how do you tell a mayor its his fuck up?

4§©®
02-23-2007, 05:29 PM
so out of all those cases in the system
only 125 are felonies. the rest are crap.

mayor calls to complain, he wants the
cases processed faster. apparently he
doesnt care about all the crap cases.

the mayor just wants the stats.

the bronx court system usually just handles
300 arrests per shift. its now handling 700.

so what happens? ambulance gets called
regularly, cause there are so many jailed
that the people in 'em waiting get sick.

courts overflows with family members
waiting for their loved ones. another
court opens up to do more cases.

and the tragic comedy of it all is that
EVERYONE knows its bullshit. that the
people being arrested shouldnt be.

but hey mayor took the overtime cap off.
cops see money. do the math.

the end result when this is all over. though
when its over dont know. since this has
been going on since late last year.

but the end result will be good people losing
their jobs & good people with arrest records.

and arrest records even bullshit ones keep
you from holding a job and getting a job.

zatoichi1
02-26-2007, 05:07 PM
That is seriously messed up.

In Hawaii, when OT for police gets uncapped; they go afer speeders and DUIs.