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09-25-2006, 03:36 PM
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Norman Mineta’s Testimony Proves 9/11 Was an Inside Job
By: truth911.net
Abstract
When examining almost any aspect of 9/11, there is strong evidence to support the alternative theory that 9/11 was a false-flag attack committed by elements within the U.S. Government and Military. The controlled demolition of the Twin Towers and WTC 7 is perhaps the strongest argument with the best scientific evidence since all three buildings collapsed at near freefall speed, leaving behind pools of an orange hot material (aka “molten metal”). The degree of pulverization of the concrete in the Twin Towers creating the pyroclastic dust cloud has proven to be nearly impossible to explain with a legitimate building collapse.
The problem with discussing this evidence is that these are scientific arguments that can only be fully understood by experts in the necessary fields. Though my science background is limited, common sense tells me that these scientific arguments are legitimate criticisms of the official theory of the collapse of the three buildings.
Supporters of the official theory have attempted to debunk the scientific evidence supporting the alternative theory (aka, the conspiracy theories), but the argument I present here cannot be debunked. The argument I present in this paper is not a scientific argument, does not require any special knowledge, and can be understood by any rational person. This argument definitely proves that 9/11 was an inside job and no other rational interpretation of these events presented could lead to any other conclusion.
Norman Mineta
Norman Mineta served in the President's Cabinet as the United States Secretary of Transportation. Mineta was the only Democratic Cabinet Secretary in the Republican George W. Bush Administration. On June 23, 2006, Mineta announced his resignation after five years and six months as Secretary of Transportation, effective July 7, 2006, making him the longest-serving Transportation Secretary in the Department's history.
In Mineta's testimony before the 9/11 Commission on May 23, 2003, he said that he arrived at the Presidential Emergency Operations Center (PEOC), where Vice President Cheney was in charge, at 9:20am on 9/11/01.
The Presidential Emergency Operations Center (PEOC) is a tube-like bunker structure that lies beneath the East Wing of the White House. Originally constructed for President Franklin D. Roosevelt during World War Two, it is presumed to be designed to withstand a nuclear blast, although in the event of an incoming ICBM, the President is more likely to be evacuated to safety by Marine One. It is not the same room as the White House Situation Room, which is under the West Wing. However, it does possess several televisions, telephones and a communications system to coordinate with other government entities during an emergency. As the name implies, the area is not normally in use.
Mineta's testimony contradicts the Government's official narrative and the 9/11 Commission Report by revealing the fact that Cheney knew about the aircraft approaching the Pentagon, long before the impact. This testimony was broadcast on C-Span. Anyone is able to watch this video on the internet to confirm that these were in fact his exact words and watch him give this damaging testimony. The entire testimony is also available online though the 9/11 Commission Report’s official website where the entire transcript of the May 23rd, 2003 hearing is available.
Directly from Mineta's Testimony:
During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, "The plane is 50 miles out". "The plane is 30 miles out".And when it got down to "the plane is 10 miles out,"the young man also said to the Vice President, "Do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"
From David Ray Griffin’s book, The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions:
When asked by Commissioner Timothy Roemer how long this conversation occurred after he arrived, Mineta said: "Probably about five or six minutes," which, as Roemer pointed out, would mean "about 9:25 or 9:26." With regard to what "the orders" referred to, Mineta assumed that they were orders to have the plane shot down. [The airplane hit the Pentagon at 9:37:46am]
There are, however, three problems with Mineta's assumption. In the first place, this interpretation would imply that Cheney had given shoot-down authorization at some time before 9:25, which is much earlier, as we will see below, than even Clarke says. Mineta's interpretation would not fit with the subsequent facts, because the aircraft headed towards the Pentagon was not shot down. Third, Mineta's interpretation would not make the episode intelligible. Had Cheney given the expected order - the order to have an aircraft approaching the Pentagon shot down - we could not explain why the young man asked if the order still stood. It would have been abundantly obvious to him that it would continue to stand until the aircraft was actually shot down. His question would make sense, however, if "the orders" were ones that seemed unusual.
Some critics of the official account have suggested, therefore, that “the orders” in question were orders not to have the aircraft shot down. But of course this interpretation, while arguably being the more natural one, would also be very threatening to the Bush administration and the Pentagon.
It is not surprising, therefore, that although Mineta’s account was released in the 9/11 Commission’s staff report in May 2003, this account is not included, or even mentioned, in the Commission’s final report. This omission provides rather clear evidence that the Commission’s real mission was not to provide the fullest possible account of 9/11 but to defend the account provided by the Bush administration and the Pentagon.
Griffin’s analysis of this event proposes that “the orders” that the “young man” referred too, were in fact to stand down, rather than shoot down.
According to Mineta’s testimony, the plane approaching the Pentagon was “50 miles out” at around 9:26. Since the Pentagon was hit at 9:37:46, it therefore took about 12 minutes for the plane to fly 50 miles, make a 330 degree turn descending 7000 feet and strike the Pentagon.
Much more here: [Only registered and activated users can see links]
[Only registered and activated users can see links]
Norman Mineta’s Testimony Proves 9/11 Was an Inside Job
By: truth911.net
Abstract
When examining almost any aspect of 9/11, there is strong evidence to support the alternative theory that 9/11 was a false-flag attack committed by elements within the U.S. Government and Military. The controlled demolition of the Twin Towers and WTC 7 is perhaps the strongest argument with the best scientific evidence since all three buildings collapsed at near freefall speed, leaving behind pools of an orange hot material (aka “molten metal”). The degree of pulverization of the concrete in the Twin Towers creating the pyroclastic dust cloud has proven to be nearly impossible to explain with a legitimate building collapse.
The problem with discussing this evidence is that these are scientific arguments that can only be fully understood by experts in the necessary fields. Though my science background is limited, common sense tells me that these scientific arguments are legitimate criticisms of the official theory of the collapse of the three buildings.
Supporters of the official theory have attempted to debunk the scientific evidence supporting the alternative theory (aka, the conspiracy theories), but the argument I present here cannot be debunked. The argument I present in this paper is not a scientific argument, does not require any special knowledge, and can be understood by any rational person. This argument definitely proves that 9/11 was an inside job and no other rational interpretation of these events presented could lead to any other conclusion.
Norman Mineta
Norman Mineta served in the President's Cabinet as the United States Secretary of Transportation. Mineta was the only Democratic Cabinet Secretary in the Republican George W. Bush Administration. On June 23, 2006, Mineta announced his resignation after five years and six months as Secretary of Transportation, effective July 7, 2006, making him the longest-serving Transportation Secretary in the Department's history.
In Mineta's testimony before the 9/11 Commission on May 23, 2003, he said that he arrived at the Presidential Emergency Operations Center (PEOC), where Vice President Cheney was in charge, at 9:20am on 9/11/01.
The Presidential Emergency Operations Center (PEOC) is a tube-like bunker structure that lies beneath the East Wing of the White House. Originally constructed for President Franklin D. Roosevelt during World War Two, it is presumed to be designed to withstand a nuclear blast, although in the event of an incoming ICBM, the President is more likely to be evacuated to safety by Marine One. It is not the same room as the White House Situation Room, which is under the West Wing. However, it does possess several televisions, telephones and a communications system to coordinate with other government entities during an emergency. As the name implies, the area is not normally in use.
Mineta's testimony contradicts the Government's official narrative and the 9/11 Commission Report by revealing the fact that Cheney knew about the aircraft approaching the Pentagon, long before the impact. This testimony was broadcast on C-Span. Anyone is able to watch this video on the internet to confirm that these were in fact his exact words and watch him give this damaging testimony. The entire testimony is also available online though the 9/11 Commission Report’s official website where the entire transcript of the May 23rd, 2003 hearing is available.
Directly from Mineta's Testimony:
During the time that the airplane was coming in to the Pentagon, there was a young man who would come in and say to the Vice President, "The plane is 50 miles out". "The plane is 30 miles out".And when it got down to "the plane is 10 miles out,"the young man also said to the Vice President, "Do the orders still stand?" And the Vice President turned and whipped his neck around and said, "Of course the orders still stand. Have you heard anything to the contrary?"
From David Ray Griffin’s book, The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions:
When asked by Commissioner Timothy Roemer how long this conversation occurred after he arrived, Mineta said: "Probably about five or six minutes," which, as Roemer pointed out, would mean "about 9:25 or 9:26." With regard to what "the orders" referred to, Mineta assumed that they were orders to have the plane shot down. [The airplane hit the Pentagon at 9:37:46am]
There are, however, three problems with Mineta's assumption. In the first place, this interpretation would imply that Cheney had given shoot-down authorization at some time before 9:25, which is much earlier, as we will see below, than even Clarke says. Mineta's interpretation would not fit with the subsequent facts, because the aircraft headed towards the Pentagon was not shot down. Third, Mineta's interpretation would not make the episode intelligible. Had Cheney given the expected order - the order to have an aircraft approaching the Pentagon shot down - we could not explain why the young man asked if the order still stood. It would have been abundantly obvious to him that it would continue to stand until the aircraft was actually shot down. His question would make sense, however, if "the orders" were ones that seemed unusual.
Some critics of the official account have suggested, therefore, that “the orders” in question were orders not to have the aircraft shot down. But of course this interpretation, while arguably being the more natural one, would also be very threatening to the Bush administration and the Pentagon.
It is not surprising, therefore, that although Mineta’s account was released in the 9/11 Commission’s staff report in May 2003, this account is not included, or even mentioned, in the Commission’s final report. This omission provides rather clear evidence that the Commission’s real mission was not to provide the fullest possible account of 9/11 but to defend the account provided by the Bush administration and the Pentagon.
Griffin’s analysis of this event proposes that “the orders” that the “young man” referred too, were in fact to stand down, rather than shoot down.
According to Mineta’s testimony, the plane approaching the Pentagon was “50 miles out” at around 9:26. Since the Pentagon was hit at 9:37:46, it therefore took about 12 minutes for the plane to fly 50 miles, make a 330 degree turn descending 7000 feet and strike the Pentagon.
Much more here: [Only registered and activated users can see links]