The ppl's voice v Acebass

[101Scout]

Unfortunately, there was a lot of information from the previous DW forum that was lost during it's software upgrade malfunction. Those threads and posts exposed a lot of what that warped mind of Acebass did to others and myself for his own and his 'pals' personal agenda(s). This thread will attempt to address those actions and agendas at a slow pace that may still provide some 'revelations' for many who read and participate. I may use this like a small journal to add information almost on a daily basis to it. There are two reasons for this. First to expose the game players and neocon operators in some forums of which it was a huge success previously in DW. Secondly to better understand the reasons why such forum operators do what they do and why. As I expose those who deserves exposure, it still educates myself of more things that I am still learning about for my own betterment and proper growth in the forum world in who I should avoid.

Let me introduce myself first. I was Scout of the Political Switchboard forum for which I helped Brendan to build in it's concept that was to connect members with all walks of political life, while promoting free speech and expression without heavy moderation. The forum was also an activist forum and also to be a forum that connected members directly with Representatives, and, or their office of which was my idea in the beginning. I was of course one of PS's admins with Acebass and Brendan.

I'd like to start with my one and only phone call to Acebass of which I will never forget when looking back over this entire fiasco. In that call, Acebass just howled with laughter stating to me what a hoot the forum world was. The giy went on and on how funny it all was to him. Plus, this all took place soon after many of us were badly mistreated in the CGCS forum for many months that Acebass had also left in disgust over because of the admins unfair and biased handling of many of it's members over the favoritism of their 'select' group of members that we refer to as the RAs and or rah rahs. These RAs happen to appear to support Bush policies and the Iraq War. More than everything else they trolled and targeted us who bashed BushCo and the Iraq War in that CGCS forum. By the way, most of us came from the old Kerry Edwards forum of which many of us, apporx 4,000 members, were supportive of Kerry and the Dem Party in which both forums were admined by Michael, Sandra and Brendan.

As I made my call to Acebass to confirm some of the ideas for the new PS forum, Acebass was not one who appeared to be 'upset' by the way he was treated by CGCS much different than what he reported to all in the forum soon after. He really acted like the entire forum world as a huge laygher or big joke. I was, myself, dead serious in what we were going to do. I did not feel from that phone call with Acebass. Afterwards I made that comment to an associate as to how weird that call was with Acebass.That's the very first thing that I can recall when looking back with all of this as something not just right with this picture when creating the PS forum. Little did I know then what a whacko sicko egotistical control freak game player I was trying to work with at that time.

[zatoichi1]

There is a poster on RRMB who uses the handle AceBass.

[BigJerr]

There is a poster on RRMB who uses the handle AceBass.

[rememberearth]

Okay what did he do?
You have to understand, I don't know a lot of the history involved in boards. I've only been posting on RR since Febuary and that's the first political board I had joined. I rarely post at DU.
Simply put I'M A NOOB. To all of this really.

[firelock]

Okay what did he do?
You have to understand, I don't know a lot of the history involved in boards. I've only been posting on RR since Febuary and that's the first political board I had joined. I rarely post at DU.
Simply put I'M A NOOB. To all of this really.

I would like to know too.
It seem unusual for someone brand new to a forum to introduce himself by blasting someone who isn't a member.
But I'm new also, so what the hell do I know! :a050:

[AvaLou]

I would like to know too.
It seem unusual for someone brand new to a forum to introduce himself by blasting someone who isn't a member.
But I'm new also, so what the hell do I know! :a050:
Scout isn't new.

[firelock]

Scout isn't new.

In that case, I'll shut up! :scared0018[1]:

[Crazy Guggenheim]

In that case, I'll shut up! :scared0018[1]:

[The_Bammo]

There is a poster on RRMB who uses the handle AceBass.

Yup, like BJ says zatoichi1, the same, same! Keep an eye open or he'll verbally rape your azz--believe that!

Hang Tough~

[The_Bammo]

Okay what did he do?
You have to understand, I don't know a lot of the history involved in boards. I've only been posting on RR since Febuary and that's the first political board I had joined. I rarely post at DU.
Simply put I'M A NOOB. To all of this really.

Well, put Acebass in google and go from there ! Check it out for yourself. You are going to believe what you want anyway - Right??? You will find some entertainin' BS in there!

Hang Tough~

[The_Bammo]

I would like to know too.
It seem unusual for someone brand new to a forum to introduce himself by blasting someone who isn't a member.
But I'm new also, so what the hell do I know! :a050:

Well firelock, I am far from new, and as far as Acebass (Ace_Hole) - I'll tell you the same --google Acebass and judge for yourself. Not enough room here --trust me!

[101Scout]

Yup, like BJ says zatoichi1, the same, same! Keep an eye open or he'll verbally rape your azz--believe that!

Hang Tough~

Let me expand on that a little further Bammo. I know from experience as an admin, and as a forum member in the same forums that Acehole belongs to, that whenever anyone asks him a sincere question about his reasoning for doing something that either is suspicious or simply unclear for what he does (which happens a lot with his actions) he'll tear one a new azz. We've seen him lock threads for little of no reason... or completely hide them away simply because of his complete and total jealous and selfish controlling nature. He's learned not to moderate fairly per his teacher Sargie Sandra (CGCS) but also enjoys his own power kicks over others on such message boards. He sucks up to whomever he can to gain any advantages just to feed his sick ego.He also collects his special 'squad of ppl' to surround himself like Hitler did with his SS crew to pursue that all mighty power with. He uses baby like words in doing so that many find it cute or adoring when they first encounter him. He's acheat, fake and a liar.... that's his mode of operation in life as far as I can tell. Oh sure, he'll tell the truth once in awhile.... when he feels safe in doing so. That's the mentality of Acebass. He's not alone folks. He's also in a crowd who does basically the same thing and that's who hangs with him. He's been used like a goat by those over him who may hold a legal title on paper... but simply use him for their own agendas too. It's a lot how Republicans work in their goals to fake out and control others by. Same style.

Bammo knows what I am talking about because he too has experienced CGCS and PS. He knows Acebass in what her and his RA pals operate. He knows also that Acebass has claimed to have been in Vietnam during the war, when he hasn't. Acebass likes to brag about his service... and calls himself a Vietnam Vet all the time. Well folks, to real Vietnam Vets, he's not. If at all he was ever in the AF as he claims, of which now because of his acehole lying ways, I now suspect that too.... but for now I will consider that he was just for the sake of saying so and giving him the proper title of what he was. If he was in fact in Thailand, some nice beach location.... I forget the name right off hand, but also under some airplane maint status for which then I would call him either a Southeast Asian Veteran or simply and more to the point a Thai Vet. He's not a Vietnam Veteran!! He loves to brag about his 'units' medals for the missions those B-52s have flown. I kept my few medals/ribbons in a box, cause it doesn't mean nothing just as that war represented itself. Now don't confuse what I just said with the comrades who fought there, it's not the same.

I like giving ppl a fair chance to speak their minds and opinions, Acebass likes the control and uses it. I think a forum should belong more to it's membership and not the regime. That's what Acebass and his B-Squad of PS couldn't do. His current RAs (pals) today have supported him to abolish the free speech and expression in PS to place it under his strict control. Well .... his and the Spells. I simply wasted a lot of my time and energy constructing and molding the PS forum to what it was supposed to by by the end of 2005. All wasted because the hidden agendas and egos that made up the rest of the PS moderation team who had other things planned. If one digs deeper into their political beliefs, you'll also see a similar pattern much the same as to what existed and created the Kerry Edwards and CGCS forum problems and faikures that reperesents the same huge problems among the neocons and Dinos today that support Republican agendas.

[zatoichi1]

Let me expell on that a little further Bammo. I know from experience as an admin, and as a forum member in the same forums that Acehole belongs to, that whenever anyone asks him a sincere question about his reasoning for doing something that either is suspicious or simply unclear for what he does (which happens a lot with his actions) he'll tear one a new azz. We've seen him lock threads for little of no reason... or completely hide them away simply because of his complete and total jealous and selfish controlling nature. He's learned not to moderate fairly per his teacher Sargie Sandra (CGCS) but also enjoys his own power kicks over others on such message boards. He sucks up to whomever he can to gain any advantages just to feed his sick ego.He also collects his special 'squad of ppl' to surround himself like Hitler did with his SS crew to pursue that all mighty power with. He uses baby like words in doing so that many find it cute or adoring when they first encounter him. He's acheat, fake and a liar.... that's his mode of operation in life as far as I can tell. Oh sure, he'll tell the truth once in awhile.... when he feels safe in doing so. That's the mentality of Acebass. He's not alone folks. He's also in a crowd who does basically the same thing and that's who hangs with him. He's been used like a goat by those over him who may hold a legal title on paper... but simply use him for their own agendas too. It's a lot how Republicans work in their goals to fake out and control others by. Same style.

Bammo knows what I am talking about because he too has experienced CGCS and PS. He knows Acebass in what her and his RA pals operate. He knows also that Acebass has claimed to have been in Vietnam during the war, when he hasn't. Acebass likes to brag about his service... and calls himself a Vietnam Vet all the time. Well folks, to real Vietnam Vets, he's not. If at all he was ever in the AF as he claims, of which now because of his acehole lying ways, I now suspect that too.... but for now I will consider that he was just for the sake of saying so and giving him the proper title of what he was. If he was in fact in Thailand, some nice beach location.... I forget the name right off hand, but also under some airplane maint status for which then I would call him either a Southeast Asian Veteran or simply and more to the point a Thai Vet. He's not a Vietnam Veteran!! He loves to brag about his 'units' medals for the missions those B-52s have flown. I kept my few medals/ribbons in a box, cause it doesn't mean nothing just as that war represented itself. Now don't confuse what I just said with the comrades who fought there, it's not the same.

I like giving ppl a fair chance to speak their minds and opinions, Acebass likes the control and uses it. I think a forum should belong more to it's membership and not the regime. That's what Acebass and his B-Squad of PS couldn't do. His current RAs (pals) today have supported him to abolish the free speech and expression in PS to place it under his strict control. Well .... his and the Spells. I simply wasted a lot of my time and energy constructing and molding the PS forum to what it was supposed to by by the end of 2005. All wasted because the hidden agendas and egos that made up the rest of the PS moderation team who had other things planned. If one digs deeper into their political beliefs, you'll also see a similar pattern much the same as to what existed and created the Kerry Edwards and CGCS forum problems and faikures that reperesents the same huge problems among the neocons and Dinos today that support Republican agendas.

We have been forewarned.

[SouthernDem2006]

Well, put Acebass in google and go from there ! Check it out for yourself. You are going to believe what you want anyway - Right??? You will find some entertainin' BS in there!

Hang Tough~

Little harsh....

[rememberearth]

Little harsh....
yep I'm done.:sick0006[1]:

[big sky brad]

Little harsh....
Oh, it's not really that harsh.

Besides, you read those other threads we had here about Ace last month.

[SouthernDem2006]

Oh, it's not really that harsh.

Besides, you read those other threads we had here about Ace last month.

Seemed completely uncalled for to me.

[big sky brad]

Well, then you won't mind if we continue to expose fraudulent admins of so-called "liberal" forums, right, Southern Dem?

[big sky brad]

Good, now we can continue.

[The_Bammo]

Little harsh....


LOL - you think this is harsh, this is a marshmallow roast SD06.

Stick around and you just might see what harsh is.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

Seemed completely uncalled for to me.

[The_Bammo]

Seemed completely uncalled for to me.

Give me a reason SD06, is Ace-Hole a Bro' or a relative? Kind of curious for your stand up words for a piece of trash who is a proven liar and fraud.

Your some kind of law enforcement person - so you say. Are you this easy on a so called criminal SD06?

[The_Bammo]

CG, hows things ? Hope all is going well Bro'!

Haven't got around to shootin' the breeze with ya' Bro'!

Hang Tough~

[firelock]

Give me a reason SD06, is Ace-Hole a Bro' or a relative? Kind of curious for your stand up words for a piece of trash who is a proven liar and fraud.

Your some kind of law enforcement person - so you say. Are you this easy on a so called criminal SD06?

Do we interogate members here for stating an opinion? That is a Neo-Con tactic.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

The Hangout.

CG, hows things ? Hope all is going well Bro'!

Haven't got around to shootin' the breeze with ya' Bro'!

Hang Tough~

[The_Bammo]

Do we interogate members here for stating an opinion? That is a Neo-Con tactic.

So when is asking legitimate questions - interogation? What are forums for firelock, this is not your local chat room Bro'.

Why you getting all watery eyed here firelock? You got something you want to say to me? Hey, go for the brass ring firelock, it should be interesting --for sure! PM me, I'll gladly give you my e mail addy! We are all for the same cause here , right!

Question, how does one who is above hate - as you say, know anything about a so called NeoCon tactic which is all about hate?

[The_Bammo]

The Hangout.

K BJ - might just cruise on over! Hang Tough~

[zatoichi1]

Acebass does not have it tough. There are posters who give other hell for less than what Acebass did on those other boards.

[The_Bammo]

Here's an oldie but a goodie from our wanna bee Vietnam Vet Ace-Hole - can anyone see the hate in this post of his! BJ, think your included in this one as well as myself, BSB, Scout and LaurieO.
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Acebass. Posted: May 5 2006, 05:47 AM


Basic Trainee


Group: Troop
Posts: 23
Member No.: 33
Joined: 26-April 06

Warn: (0%)

I am sick of you two fuckers running my name on the internet in the mud...

I was completely insulted by Sandra and Nicole in Democratic Underground because of you two fucking retards ..

I am warning you two, this Vietnam Veteran is not going to take much more from you two assholes , and as far as Democratic Underground and Democratic Warrior, fuck all of them as well ....

Remember retards a promise is a promise, tell that to Big Jerk Jerr, Crazy Gook, Big Stupid Brad, Laurie the Canuck skank, Sandy and Nicole the old nags in Democratic Underground as well, they are all useless to anyones way of life....

Scout you are one sick individual....

Bammo your a back stabber, how many Americans did you shoot in the back in Vietnam Bammo?

I didn't shoot any when I was in Vietnam... and I was in Vietnam Bammo, and I was in combat... Fuck Off

Fuck off Retards ... Or I'll make you fuck off....


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This is the self proclimed Super Liberal - Acebass (Ace-Hole) - nice word for a mentally challenged person! Shows where this idiot comes from.

Any of you people want to stick up for this slug, whats that make you!

You can tell his lame azz threat really scared me off, you want a bum like this representing or saying he is representing the Democratic Party or that he is against the NeoCons? I sure as hell don't!

Hang Tough~

[firelock]

Well, I don't know this guy (Acebass), so I will just avoid the Revelations forum. It has nothing to do with me anyway.

[The_Bammo]

Acebass does not have it tough. There are posters who give other hell for less than what Acebass did on those other boards.

Your damn right zatoichi - right on the money. A lot of you are going to run into this scumbag - Acebass. Your going to see what you are really dealing with before its too damn late.

Hang Tough zatoichi~

[101Scout]

Do we interogate members here for stating an opinion? That is a Neo-Con tactic.

We (or whomever) expose NeoCons and Republicans as they deserve it. Opinons are still welcomed as far as I'm concerned. This forum, Revealtions, is set up especially just for this. We're here with the proper support of this administration for what this area is designed for since it was installed in DW I.

I have proven much of what I have exposed in this forum so far. So have others. I have shared my most honest opinions from my own experiences to date in these political forums. I find it more interesting than anything else that some 'newbees' comes here in defense of these proven 'gamers and operators' while pointing fingers at some of us. Yes... very interesting.

Being that most of us here came from DWI as Dems with a 'backbone' and not afraid to expose NeoCons or anyone conservative, has brought some of us to clean house in both politics and the message boards. It seems some folks wish not to help clean house with learning the reasons for why some are exposed. Now I find that really interesting!


Mind you that any of this does not obstruct from me having debates with conservatives or neocons here or in any other message board.

:viking[1]:

[The_Bammo]

Well, I don't know this guy (Acebass), so I will just avoid the Revelations forum. It has nothing to do with me anyway.


Kind of an easy way out firelock. This is a "SHRUB" propaganda machine posting as a Liberal Democrat.

Your choice Bro', run off and let the truth go by, or stick around and find something out, on how these so called NeoCons you know so much about (tactics) really operate and use people like yourself!

Hang Tough~

[KyndCulture]

This fucktard Acevbass been haunting me in PM

Im sorry that I even tried, and believe me this will be the last time I do. You think it's funny now but they'll do it to you just remember what I said.
You know where I'll be found, if you want the whole story.

OK that's fuckin close to a threat for this guy I don't wanna talk to.

Advice?

[Crazy Guggenheim]

This fucktard Acevbass been haunting me in PM



OK that's fuckin close to a threat for this guy I don't wanna talk to.

Advice?

[KyndCulture]

They are PMs there, and he go my yahoo IM... it's easy to guess, but changes nicks and I can't get rid of me, now he's given me the creeps.

[Crazy Guggenheim]

They are PMs there, and he go my yahoo IM... it's easy to guess, but changes nicks and I can't get rid of me, now he's given me the creeps.

[SouthernDem2006]

It was his reply to one of our users I was referring to.

[SouthernDem2006]

Seemed completely uncalled for to me.

As long as you dont feel the need to be rude to our members...

[SouthernDem2006]

Give me a reason SD06, is Ace-Hole a Bro' or a relative? Kind of curious for your stand up words for a piece of trash who is a proven liar and fraud.

Your some kind of law enforcement person - so you say. Are you this easy on a so called criminal SD06?


I think you misunderstand. Please reread my first post on this thread. My comment was about your comment to one of our users.

[The_Bammo]

This fucktard Acevbass been haunting me in PM



OK that's fuckin close to a threat for this guy I don't wanna talk to.

Advice?

LOL --KyndCulture, I feel for ya' --damn right!

You got to tell ol' Ace-Hole to screw off - plain and simple! No politeness for this turd, he takes manners for weakness.

I do not blame you for not wanting to talk to the bum. Serious KyndCulture, he is trying to use ya', for his own gains. Get ya' to say something he can twist and bend to his benefit, which puts you in his grip. Thats how this Ace-Hole works and he has a lot more little evil methods.

Putting it in another kind of description, its kind of like lettin' a cockroach in your pad and feedin' the cockroach ! Pretty soon the cockroach and his friends own you and your pad. Thats how Ace-Hole plays, like a damn cockroach.

Call the pest exterminator for this wanna bee cockroach! LOL
Serious, this cocktroach is a fisher as well, loves to bait and use anything you say for his own little evil manipulations!

Tell the bum to F**K off - plain and simple IMHO.

Hang Tough ~

[The_Bammo]

I think you misunderstand. Please reread my first post on this thread. My comment was about your comment to one of our users.

Okay, N/S

[The_Bammo]

As long as you dont feel the need to be rude to our members...

Emily Post? Thought that quote sounded familiar.

[The_Bammo]

It was his reply to one of our users I was referring to.

No need for explanation SD06, just like Sly and the Family Stone Sang, "We are Family" !

[The_Bammo]

They are PMs there, and he go my yahoo IM... it's easy to guess, but changes nicks and I can't get rid of me, now he's given me the creeps.

Thats the Acebass (Ace-Hole) we all love to hate!

I understand why that maniac wanna bee SOB would give you the creeps KyndCulture, for sure!

That is ol' Ace-Holes MO --for sure!

Seriously, the sooner you tell this wanna bee to F**k Off the better, IMHO. Unless you have a fondness for leeches that are liars, which I doubt! LOL

Hang Tough~

[101Scout]

During the first month of the PS forum, I kept very busy doing several things for PS. As I first became moderator per Brendan's decision, (in which soon later I'd become admin as to then help construct the PS forum via Brendan's supervision and help), I also did what I could to recruit new members and post what both Acebass and Brendan wanted done on that forum to get it's 'ratings' up in google land simply by the increaased amount of postings laid down in PS. This, by the way, is apparently one major obsession of Acebass... to post as many posts each and every day of news articles, or whatever gobbly gook one can post about.

During those first weeks in PS, Acebass started ranting about how we weren't posting enough... per to 'his' liking. He wanted more members to join up... but hell who didn't? I know I told him it would take time to build a membership... as Brendan understood that, but Acebass would scream over and over how much he wanted more members to start coming into PS during August. The few (10-15) that we had wasn't enough. He wanted more... yesterday! Plus the problem with those 10-15 members was that they all were basically on the same page about everything. After posting with those same ole members, the conversatins would get boring and it did!

In addition,the other big problem that I saw was that the (silent CEOs) "Spells' only wanted an 'activist' forum that didn't bring in that many 'activists' at all to be honest. So I mentioned to Brendan that what PS needed was 'action'. It needed an area on the forum that could handle heated debates while at the same time it could still maintain an area that protected the Democrat members and activists so that they'd not be bothered by any Republicans. Brendan liked the idea. I then created a new 'entry' level for the forum for the soul purpose of all walks of political life to come in and debate without any suppression. Therefore to allow 'action' to come to the PS forum. More conversations... more debates... more diversity among the membership. It was working!

Another problem that I kept bringing up to Brendan was the forum's lack of rules. I had to constantly harp in the forum's office area about not having a complete set of proper rules for our forum, but yet nothing got done about the new rules for PS for a long long time. I even drew up a set of rules that then had to be ok'd by Buddy Spell. I thot to myself why? Brendan said to me that he'd present my rules to Buddy Spell for his 'approval'. Gee..... here we were the admins/mods (plus my donation of $50 to the forum in which Brendan reported to me that the Spells had not donated anything to PS), yet..... we were under some special Spell command? Well no word EVER came back on the rules that I worked up. I was only seeking Brendan's approval and fast for we were then running a forum that basically had no or very little rules in which at times, it come back to bite us in the ass as I predicted it would. Problems would arise from our generic weak ass rules. Of course there was nothing from Acebass about this concerning the rules. Now looking back I now know why. Acebass was the Spell's personal goat(boy) and he was doing everything they wanted done in PS... and controlling/suppressing me.

Then as new guest were showing up, Acebass became all freaked out by them. It was if Acebass was a fugitive running from the law in the way he raved and ranted about the guests so much in the forum's office. He couldn't stand not knowing who they were. Why they were there. What were they up to. I'd tell Acebass to just not worry about it... damn... let them come in and find their place in the forum.... if there's trouble we'd handle it. Oh but Acebass would just go on and on and on about the guests. It got to the point after he'd start bitching on me all the time about the 'problem' guests... I just tell him to simply ignore them, not go around them cause he couldn't handle them ... just let them be and they'll either tire out and go away or I'd confront them if needed. Oh no... not Acebass. He could not let nothing go by for 5 mins without sticking his stupid face into their business. You all want to know something else pretty funny? It turns out that most of those guests were his own RA pals from CGCS... in there messin' with his head. Yet he couldn't just stay up on the second level of the forum where the activist that he adored so much were... he had to go to the 1st level and trip all over himself while the 'guest' simply pushed his buttons. Hell they knew what a jerkoff hothead Acebass was so they 'goated' him and they drove him nuts! Then Acebass would end up in the PS office... yelling about how the guests were a bitchin' problem... yet Acebass wanted more members. Well.... needless to say I did what I could to maintain flow on the first level of PS while working in the admin panel doing things for PS .... and also handling other work elsewhere. Brendan simply wouldn't do much of anything about Acebass, but to only tell me that he was probably drunk or popping his pain pills and freakin out all over the place. This was all going on from July August '05 with his bullshit out of control rants and stupid demands.

It was then I felt something odd about trying to work up PS .... but after coming from the crap hole CGCS, and wanting to build a super forum per the concept I shared with Brendan, I was determine to remain in PS and not let anyone down including all it's members. Yes, it turned out to be a huge mistake for staying and busting my ass in there, but in my heart I knew that I was doing the right thing simply because I told Brendan and others that I would. As Sept neared, so did Katrina.... and Camp Casey and the 'new' fiascos that followed... even in the PS forum... as Acebass raged on in his own form of insanity.

:o060: :confused0062[1]:

[KyndCulture]

On the advice of several members, I will continue to allow him to PM so I can post it.

Honestly guys, this dude is giving me the heebs jeebs.... :scared0016[1]:

But ya'll got my back I know. I can smell a freak at 50 paces, and this one has got the psycho pheremones.

[rememberearth]

Okay, he stalks this forum. When I post, he pm's me. I blocked his pm as he talked smack about Kynd, nobody does that to my sister!
NOBODY ASSCLOWN AS I KNOW YOU'RE READING THIS!
Thank you Kynd for giving me the courage to speak up.

[KyndCulture]

Okay, he stalks this forum. When I post, he pm's me. I blocked his pm as he talked smack about Kynd, nobody does that to my sister!
NOBODY ASSCLOWN AS I KNOW YOU'RE READING THIS!
Thank you Kynd for giving me the courage to speak up.

I'm glad you didn't believe that shit. I haven't said anything to him at all. So he's trying to divide and conquer.

Kynd is many things, a single girl living alone, a recovering alcoholic, a big mouth about the war and bush, a red headed spit fire that swears like a sailor... but I most ASSUREDLY NOT A LIAR.

[zatoichi1]

I'm glad you didn't believe that shit. I haven't said anything to him at all. So he's trying to divide and conquer.

Kynd is many things, a single girl living alone, a recovering alcoholic, a big mouth about the war and bush, a red headed spit fire that swears like a sailor... but I most ASSUREDLY NOT A LIAR.

Kynd not a liar? To me that is a given.:)

That said, we do not need this type of distraction. Shame on him.:fart: