What are your top 5 questions about 9/11 that you want answered?

[KyndCulture]

Some of us only have a few, some of us have a steno pad full of them...

for brevity sake and some good conversation... if you had the ear of someone who could pass along these questions but could only ask 5.... what would they be?


1) Where are the wings, engines and bodies from the plane that crashed into the Pentegon? If they exist, prove it with pictures or video.

2) How did the structure of the Towers and the jet fuel fire change the laws of physics and collapse at a rate of .8 seconds above gravitational freefall speed?

3) Why was there NO forensic investigation of the debris conducted and why was it shuttled to all parts of the world so quickly, when the largest crime against our nation was perpetrated?

4) Who gave the order for the exercise involving NORAD, the FAA and the military on the morning of 9/11 and how long was this exercise planned in advance?

5) The Brazillion $$ question: How were the 20 hijackers and "mastermind" identified in less than 24 hrs after attack, including pictures, bios and their extensive movements in the US?

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[Koyaanisqatsi]

Great topic, Kynd.

1) How is it that anything at all could have hit the Pentagon, let alone a 757, when the Pentagon has some of the most protected air space in the world? How is it that over an hour passed from the time the first plane hit the North Tower to the time something hit the Pentagon with no intercept? Where was NORAD? (okay, that's 3 questions, but they are related...aheh).

2) What caused WTC7 to collapse since the 911 Commission Report admits their claim of it being the fire alone that caused the collapse was extremely unlikely to be the actual cause?

3) Why wouldn't our leaders testify publically under oath about one of the biggest disasters our nation has faced? Why did it stonewall an investigation into what happened (right in the face of the pleas from 9/11 widows)?

4) Our tax dollars pay for the most expensive military protection from outside attack in the world. Can I get my money back for the day of 9/11? Related: Why hasn't anybody been held accountable for the "mistakes" of 9/11? Why is everybody getting pats on the backs and medals for their blunders?

5) I want the truth. I want a full independent open investigation with our leaders testifying publically under oath into what happened on 9/11. Sorry, that's not a question...it's a demand from an American. Ultimately, we were ALL attacked that day and deserve answers and justice.

[tobyo]

I'm not sure I'd call these my "top 5" but these are the ones I could think of just now:

1) WHERE THE HELL WAS NORAD THAT DAY???????? (that is my number one question) along with that, why was the Pentagon left undefended?

2) What hit the Pentagon? The hole left there does not look at all like a jet airliner. and what happened to the videos of what hit the Pentagon?

3)Why were the GZILLIONS of warnings (from all over the world!) IGNORED????

4) Why did WTC #7 collapse?

5) Why were the two men in charge (the moron-in-chief and his sidekick, dickwad) NOT put under oath for their testimony? and why was it private? where is that transcript? why aren't the American people allowed to know what they said during their supposed "testimony"?

[GymGeekAus]

I only have two. What did the administration know, and when did they know it.

[Zemo]

Watched CBC's "Secret History of 911" this AM.

Would ask questions:

1. Why could Cheney give orders to attack hijacked planes when only Bush was supposed to be able to?
2. Why did Bush's motorcade leave the Florida school and head for the airport in the complete opposite direction?
3. Why would communications be out between Bush and White House even after he got onto Air Force 1?
4. Why was Cheney able to assume Presidential authority with the reasoning that our nation might be facing an imminent nuclear attack?
5. Why after 5 years have not Bush and Cheney fully answered those questions and been completely honest with the 9/11 commission?
6. Why would Rumsfeld push to attack Iraq on 9/12/2001 with the reasoning that Iraq had better targets than Afghanistan, although there was no evidence of a connection between Iraq and the 9/11 attacks?

Had to slip that 6th question in because the unholy partnership of Cheney and Rumsfeld brought all this shit about, and of course the Bushes are the 3rd member of this dictatorial trumvirate.

That documentary plainly painted George W as the dupe he is. 9/11 was the chance that Cheney and Rummy could take to consolidate power and sweep aside any who might protest them putting our country on a war footing, instead of using international police actions to recover from what happened.

[galilei]

Such good questions have already been asked in this thread that I feel I have some room to ask others that aren't less important, but maybe less obvious.

1. What was the order referred to in Richard Clarke's book that Cheney insisted to his orderly still stood as the plane approached the Pentagon?

2. What exactly was discussed when Mahmoud Ahmed, General of Pakistan's ISI and later found to be a direct funder of Mohammed Atta to the tune of $100,000 met with George Tenet, Colin Powell, Condaleeza Rice, Porter Goss, John Kyl and others the week of 9/11?

3. Where is Wally Hilliard, owner of Huffman aviation where 4 of the hijackers trained and owner of a Lear jet interdicted and found to be shipping 43 lbs of heroin, and why is he not facing prosecution?

4. What documents did Jeb Bush, under cover of night, fly out of Huffman aviation shortly after the 9/11 attacks?

5. How did Rudy Giuliani know not to go to his office of emergency management located in building 7, and who alerted him that the towers were going to collapse?

[talidapali]

1. Where was NORAD and why weren't there interceptors in the air after they saw the planes going off course, and were unable to establish radio contact?

2. Why did the Secret Service allow President Bush to continue sitting in a public school classroom when there was a confirmed attack on the United States?

3. Why did President Bush pause for a photograph with the school children and their teachers after the SS did move to evacuate him and go to a safe place?

4. Why were teh Bin Laden family members allowed to leave the US in the days following the attacks after Osama Bin Laden had been linked to the attacks?

5. Why does the Bush administration still throw up barriers to investigations into the attacks five years later?

[webhead]

I only have two. What did the administration know, and when did they know it.
Excellent questions!

I would add:

#1 - To Bush after swearing in: Why did you ignore 8/6/2001 PDB?

#2 - Who allowed Saudis to leave country, and why?

#3 - Where is Pentagon debris, what was chain of evidence of debris, and who was the director of operations for debris cleanup?

#4 - What caused WTC 7 to fall, was there any demo excercise with pre-planted fake explosive, and was fake explosive placed as an excercise clandestinely replaced by real explosives?

#5 - Investigate involvement of WTC owner, how much $$$ did he receive in insurance money, was that a a motive for owner to participate in an inside job of WTC #7, if not the Twin Towers as well?

[Trap]

1) Exactly when did the fighter planes launch out of Otis AFB in Massachusetts?

2) Who ordered them into a holding pattern tens of miles outside of New York Harbor? Why couldn't they enter NYC airspace?

3) Why was a second plane allowed to hit the WTC, given that the F-15's were already on station???

4) Who ordered the fighter jets to be scrambled out of Langely AFB in Verginia, when Andrews AFB is less than 10 miles from the Pentagon? Why were they ordered to fly over the Atlantic Ocean, the exact opposet direction for a vectored intercept??

5) WHERE THE FUCK WERE THE NATION'S TOP COMMANDERS? Rummy? The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff? The General in command of NORAD? The head of NEADS?
The attack lasted 90 min.....and these jokers were all out to lunch?? Freekin Rummy says he did not even know about the attacks ever after the Pentagon was hit. WTF?

And of course:

Answer the Jersey Girls questions.

[Eyeswideopen]

1. NORAD. Where was NORAD that day? Who was in charge, what actions did they take and who has been held accountable for allowing planes to penetrate U.S. air defenses not once, not twice, not three times, but four times in one day?

2. ACTIONS TAKEN TO ASSIST THE TERRORISTS. Since we know there were many warnings in the months preceding 9/11 of possible terrorist attacks using hijacked planes in the U.S., why did Bush take the following steps in the summer of 2001, which would seem to HELP the terrorists? Why did he use the Visa Express program to help Saudis enter the U.S. more quickly, without visiting a U.S. Embassy? Why did he ban guns in the cockpits of commercial airliners? Why did he stop the racial profiling of possible hijackers? Why did he allow the Joint Chiefs of Staff to change the protocol for responding to hijackings, so that instead of an automatic response, it required the specific order of the Secretary of Defense (who would "coincidentally" claim to be out of the loop on 911 until the Pentagon was hit, therefore unable to issue such an order)? All these actions would seem counterproductive if one were truly trying to defend the nation.

3. THE HIJACKERS. Since the British press reported that some of the alleged hijackings were alive and well after 9/11, and FBI Director Mueller admitted that the FBI does not really know the identities of the people who flew those planes, then what steps has the U.S. government taken to track down the identities of "the real hijackers"? Why haven't they called on the people of the world to assist solving this mystery? Why do they continue to spread the lie that they know who flew the planes?

4.TIES BETWEEN CIA and AL QAEDA. What are the ties between Al Qaeda and the CIA? A great deal of evidence points to the fact that Al Qaeda was an asset of the CIA and they worked in concert. Did Al Qaeda once work with the CIA and then revolt and split off in some sort of breach of that relationship? If so, what caused it? Similarly, please tell us all about the decades-long relationship between the Bush and Bin Ladin families. Why was this relationship not even mentioned, let alone fully explained, to the American people and the world? If Bin Ladin is really a very dangerous terrorist, then why was he visited by a CIA agent in the American hospital in Dubai, yet not arrested? Why was he allowed to escape at Tora Bora? Why doesn't his most wanted poster even mention the 9/11 attacks as one of his crimes?

5. MISSING TRILLIONS. Where are the Pentagon's trillions of dollars which Rumsfeld announced on 9/10/01 were missing? What steps have been taken to find that money? Who is being held accountable for that missing money? Did the missing trillions have anything to do with the fact that many in the ACCOUNTING department of the Pentagon were killed on 9/11?

[Mr.Dude]

1) Where are the wings, engines and bodies from the plane that crashed into the Pentegon? If they exist, prove it with pictures or video.


1. Like birds, airplanes are built to be as light as possible. An airplane wing is a combinination of aluminum and steel. It is not designed to withstand a 30 mph crash into a stationary object. It is not designed to withstand a 5 mph crash with a stationary object. Even lower speeds can cause severe damage to the aircraft.

The airplane in question flew into a stationary object (The Pentagon) at a speed of greater than 400 miles an hour at the moment of contact. The airplane struck at an angle. It completely penetrated two rings of the Pentagon, and a piece of the landing gear penetrated all the way to the C ring.

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If you go to the picture at the bottom of this website you will see the picture we have all seen.

We need to consider the actual impact. Since the impact did not happen in one instant, we will consider how the airplane and the building reacted. We'll start with them intact.

First, there is evidence that that plane in fact "kissed" the ground moments before impact.

Second, the portion of the picture shown in light blue-grey is actually "Photo-Shopped." This portion of the building collapsed so all of the informational imagery shown is speculation.

But let's address the real issue: Why aren't there holes for the wing and the tail?

As the jet proceeds to enter the building the next significant piece of the airplane to strike the building will be the right leading edge at the root. That is to say: The jet's wing is swept back. The part closest to the body on the right side will strike the building before the tip of the wing because the wing tip is further away from the building.

Unfortunately the wing is not strong enough for this type of impact. The design is set up for up and down forces (generated by the lift of the wings). Not forward impact. Because of this, the wing snaps off backward. The plane is going so fast it does not alter it's direction at all on its passage through the building.

Next, the left side wing hits the building. The part closest to the left side of the jets hits first. The wing tip is further out and swept back. This force snaps this wing back into the body of the plane.

Now the tail enters the building. Again. it's swept-back design means the tall tip enters after the leading edge. And since the building is gone before this picture can be taken we do not know what damage is present but we can surmise that the tail is totally sheared off by its passage through the building.

All of this steel and aluminum of the jet have momentum as a group and individually. The jet collapses because the building is stronger. Yet the crushed material keeps moving until it has disappated all of its energy. Considering the piece that made it through to the C ring there was a lot of energy.

Where is all this stuff? All the metal and bodies? It disintergrated as it passed through the building. It was then mixed with the rubble it created from the building.

The sad part is, the people who flew the jet into the Pentagon? They apparently thought doing that would change things for the better.

[Mr.Dude]

2) How did the structure of the Towers and the jet fuel fire change the laws of physics and collapse at a rate of .8 seconds above gravitational freefall speed?

Oof. This will take a while. Go get a good cup of coffee, I'll wait . . .

Ya' ready? Here's goes:

While the design of WTC 1&2 were considered marvels of engineering, they would never have been approved for construction here in California or Japan.

The towers used the outside steel frame and the internal core column to allow for huge floor spaces without interior columns. We don't allow this type of construction here for the obvious reason - it's not strong enough. The pancaking effect that can be observed in the collapse of the buildings is exactly what happened in Mexico City on September 19, 1985, with the resultant horrible loss of life.

This means that all the support forces are carried in the exterior structure and the interior central core. The impact of the jets seriously impacted both the exterior support and the interior central core.

The reason the collapse occurs at just slightly more than free fall speed? Simple matter of physics. The first upper floor collapses. It's weight is now added to floor below. This fails quickly. The next level is now supporting four times the original weight load.

Unfortunately in the WTC the collapse did not involve just the upper floor collapsing. Because of where the buildings were hit, the first floor to fail dropped the weight of everything above it on to the next floor down.

The thing that tied the outer frame to the central core were 5/8ths inch bolts. The bolts as used could withstand twice there installed load. But they were asked to support over ten times that load.

The collapse begins to gather speed. In fact, if you plot it out, the collapse occurs on a log scale, going faster and faster, rapidly approaching a terminal velocity of g. For the final floors the collapse involves so much weight they are in fact in free fall. There simply isn't enough steel to stop that much weight.

Modern highrises are in fact mostly hollow. If you work it out, you will find that the WTC Towers are actually lighter than if the structures had been solid balsa wood (not practical since there is no space inside for anything - I only provide this to show that the structure has a very low actual weight as a structure).

.8 seconds is a very short span of time. It may even fall within the probable error for measurement of time in this instance. The longest part of the collapse is the start. It starts slowlys. It finished in free fall.

[Mr.Dude]

5) The Brazillion $$ question: How were the 20 hijackers and "mastermind" identified in less than 24 hrs after attack, including pictures, bios and their extensive movements in the US?

THE Question. I believe it's actually worse than you've described.

The ABLE DANGER program identified every one of the terrorists a year beforehand. Not only were they ordered to keep quite they are currently under a gag order. So even though the mebers of ABLE DANGER were ordered to appear and testify before a Congressional Committee they were not allowed to testify. The 9/11 Committee deliberately left out any references to the the program even after they had been informed of the program. Do you get that? The 9/11 Committe didn't care what the truth was! They all made sure the truth was buried.

[KyndCulture]

Hey Mr. Dude.

NOBODY asked for your answers to the questions.

We are just asking for the answers from our government, so please don't waste anymore time trying to answer these questions.

Your answers aren't what we want. Get it?

[Trap]

I liked Dude's answer, it encapsulated everything I was thinking about Able Danger.

DohOooooppppssss :hiding:

[AtomicBomb]

1. What explaination besides controlled demolitions can explain the near free fall collapses of WTC 1, 2, and particularly WTC 7?

2. What proof is there linking 9/11 to OBL and why doesn't the FBI's 10 most wanted list indicate OBL as being wanted for 9/11?

3. Where is the wreckage from flight 77 and/or 93 that can be linked to either of those flights through serial number identification? (Note: Planes have thousands of parts requiring regular maintenance. These parts have serial numbers which are used to not only maintain maintenance logs but could also be used to identify a crashed aircraft.)

4. Which of the 3 different time lines of NORADs actions on 9/11 are false and who is responsible for releasing the false reports?

5. Will the American people wake up to the reality that 9/11 was an inside job BEFORE the next deadly false flag operation takes place?